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Post by ludo85 on Dec 11, 2015 5:37:48 GMT -5
Hello. I'm interested in buying plans for building a 11'SUP. But I am in France, and I wonder if I will easily find red cedar in my country. I have found 1 metre pieces, but none in 3 metres... First question are there any other french here ? Second one, whitch more local wood can be used ? Sorry for my approximative english...
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Post by trestles on Dec 14, 2015 16:09:08 GMT -5
Ludo,
I don't live in France nor do I speak French but did want to reply to your post. I will attest that I had a lot of difficulty finding clean cedar stock here in the states as well. I opted to purchase basswood from a lumber yard. That being said I think my basswood board is going to be heavier than the cedar boards(last weigh in it was 60lbs and I haven't glassed it yet). I have noticed a LOT of people building with cedar that isn't so clean...meaning I have seen many boards on here and on other sites(tree to sea for instance) where people have built their boards with cedar that contains knots and such. Heck if you watch Chad's video on YouTube he shows in his build where he actually blew out a knot while building and just filled it with wood chips and glue. My point is I think you can do it with not so clean cedar. It may require more patience and stock as you may lose some during the build...especially in the rail build(I broke a few pieces and all of my basswood stock was knot free and soaked in hot water). The boards actually in my opinion look awesome with the knots if you can manage to work through them.
I guess my point is you have some options...work with the not so perfect cedar in your area or find some alternative materials. One great alternative IF you can find it and it doesn't cost you a fortune is paulownia. Unfortunately here in the states it is very expensive. Basswood is another option(it has a lot of the same properties as cedar and is used in a lot of saunas, as stringers on foam boards, etc.) but of course it is a little heavier.
Good luck and let us know if you find anything!
Take care,
Hank
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Post by miguel on Oct 14, 2016 3:28:59 GMT -5
Hi, I know this is somehow late but I'll state it anyway. We have here Leroy Merlin and I'm sure you have it in france too. They sell Cryptomeria (bois sugi, cedre du japon) at a very reasonable prices, and my father (an experienced woodworker) said to mee that it has properties similar to cedar, even a very beautiful perfume!
Here is the link for the portuguese page:
www.leroymerlin.pt/Site/Produtos/Madeiras/Ripas/Aplainadas/19378576.aspx
Regards,
Miguel.
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Post by miguel on Feb 15, 2018 10:38:05 GMT -5
A quick report regarding sugi wood: extremly light, a bit "spongy" and difficult to bend - broke a few with my two 8 ft SUPs.
I give you this tip: soak them no less than 48 hours before bending, especialy the first rail! I've used a scrap PVC pipe I found with sufficient length, filled it with water and put the rails there soaking.
Regards,
Miguel.
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