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Post by bajagrant on Aug 18, 2011 17:04:14 GMT -5
adding extra rail in the nose Attachments:
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Post by bajagrant on Aug 18, 2011 17:06:20 GMT -5
Sanded board, I am glassing today, should have fins on tomorrow and hot coat this weekend... Not too bad for a guy that never touched a piece of wood except to throw more n the fire.. Chad rules, I :)couldn't have done this without him.. Attachments:
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Post by turtlebo on Aug 19, 2011 19:54:52 GMT -5
Grant,
Thanks for the pics. Looks nice. I hope the glassing goes well.
I think I found some scrap lumber today that should be long enough, so I don't have to scarf the pieces which I am realizing may be more complicated than I am currently ready for. I have also been playing around some scrap that I have and I have come to the conclusion that a table top planer is a must have. There is no other tool that will get the boards close enough. But I may have an aquaintance that will let me borrow one. Wish me luck.
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Post by apauly1954 on Aug 28, 2011 13:25:48 GMT -5
Hi Guys, This is what I did yesterday morning. Went with Monterey Pine with mahogany 'stringers'. Spent 2 hrs at the timber mill/yard choosing the pine for grain pattern, light weight & solid not loose knots. Worth it tho! Here's some pics. Attachments:
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Post by apauly1954 on Aug 28, 2011 13:26:54 GMT -5
& another after clamps removed Attachments:
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Post by apauly1954 on Aug 28, 2011 13:27:41 GMT -5
& another Attachments:
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Post by apauly1954 on Aug 28, 2011 13:29:11 GMT -5
& another of the bottom with spoon nose Attachments:
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Post by jslayton on Sept 21, 2011 7:31:08 GMT -5
This being my first SUP I might have some pretty novice questions but my first one involves the top and bottom skins. I was wondering why you cannot use a single sheet of wood veneer? Are people using strips so that they can create unique patterns? Or is there another advantage.
-josh
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Post by wyatt on Sept 21, 2011 10:31:28 GMT -5
I believe I read Chad saying that you could use 1/4in Luan for the skins....the problem is that it produces some wavy lines and does not bend perfectly. Personally, I would not even try it, with all plywood there could be voids between the layers that you will not see until it cracks because of it. If you are thinking about finding one piece of 1/4 solid wood veneer that will cover the whole thing....I can't see why that would be a bad idea, though I would think it would be close to impossible to find, but I suppose if you look hard enough you can find anything. I like gluing the pieces together for the look and also the ease of find the material to do it. Oh, and another advantage of using pieces...finding lighter weight wood....plywood is heavier than wood of the same species and thickness because of the glue that is used, so using solid wood pieces will cut down on the weight.
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Post by apauly1954 on Sept 21, 2011 14:36:04 GMT -5
Hi Josh,
I'd have to say I agree with all that wyatt says.
Having said that tho, I buy imported Finnish Beech ply for constructing drum shells (my other hobby). That's drums that you hit with drumsticks I'm talking about. It comes in 3ply at 1mm thick & 5ply at 1.5mm thick, has fantastic woodgrain & is extremely flexible & strong (as it needs to be to be bent into a circular drum shell).
So I do intend at some point to build a board using the 1.5mm Beech ply for both skins. Somewhat experimental I guess & as the Beech ply comes in 6' X 4' sheets, I'll probably build a 5'10" mini Simmons as I'll get both skins for that size board from one sheet.
When I build it I'll post pics of the build & the finished board. Don't know when tho. Definately on the 'back burner' at this point as next build is a SUP. I've almost finished the paddle!
If I can I'll attach a pic of one of my snare drums, in case you are interested.
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Post by mojohand on Sept 27, 2011 22:07:13 GMT -5
Hey guys. I've getting to the point of applying the skins. I have some concerns about it. I'm making the 8' mini with spoon nose. My concern is about getting good contact at all points. As I look at the spar and rib skeleton, there appears to be a lot of contour, both the spoon, rocker, and concave bottom. My concern is trying to get good contact by applying the completed skin all together, rather than 1 or 2 planks at a time. I know Chad's directions call for putting the entire bottom on at once. Has anyone had any trouble with this? Are my concerns valid or is it easier than I am imagining? Thaanks for the help.
Randy
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Post by TimelessSurf on Sept 27, 2011 23:44:33 GMT -5
Hey Mojo, Did you add shims to the jig to compensate for the spoon nose? You can either do that, or cut the contour of each rib into the top of the 2x4s on the jig. If you are concerned with it you can always dry fit it and test clamp to be sure you have all provisions ready to go. I usually do that regardless just to be safe. If you have any points that don't make contact you can shim the skin with small scraps of wood to get good contact.
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Post by mojohand on Sept 28, 2011 0:42:08 GMT -5
Hey Chad. Yeah I have shims. I haven't yet cut the wood for the bottom; still deciding on what I want. I dry fit the skeleton together and put it on the jig to see how it will work. I guess it's just a matter of getting it shimmed so that all the high (low?) points are covered. I just worried about getting it all glued up and there not being good contact (over the spoon nose, say) and it vibrating like a drum! It's probably not even going to be an issue. I'll keep you posted.
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Post by TimelessSurf on Sept 28, 2011 13:12:59 GMT -5
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Post by apauly1954 on Sept 29, 2011 7:43:00 GMT -5
Hi mojo,
If you check out the pics I posted under the Assembly thread 'rocker jig length for 9'2" classic board' you'll see where I cut the contoured shape for each rib in the spoon nose & just planted them (glued & panel pinned) on top of my jig dross pieces as Chad has suggested to you as one option.
I have to say I found it better way to go as it ensures the bottom skin in the spoon area being pulled into the ribs & therefore getting a full glue up right along the rib edge, much better than using shims. So worth the bit extra effort I think.
Pauly
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