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Post by 1974 on Nov 5, 2013 10:02:32 GMT -5
Also, make sure and keep everything square whichever method you decide.
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Post by juliangibraltar on Nov 11, 2013 5:47:45 GMT -5
Thanks 1974, I think your right that the bottom is easier than the top. Before doing anything I'm planning to check and double check the glue points as I think I can possibly "hide" more imperfections on the inside by doing it slat by slat and then spend more time sanding the exterior. Of course I was planning to start this last weekend but when I turned up at my wood supplier whom I had fairly meticulously explained what I needed and what I was building, rather let me down. I had to laugh when he showed me a pile of wood, as per the photo, and told me that was my wood, nicely cut to strips. He had cut to 33.5 cms instead of 3.35metres Even professionals make mistakes....just a little dot in the wrong place! I kept the wood for free but couldnt carry on. I have since calculated and drawn up cutting plans for cutting the slats from his planks so there are hopefully no more errors - I have to admit it looks simple but allowing for blade thickness and smoothing it all gets a bit complex! Hopefully will have a more interesting upload shortly. Attachments:
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Post by juliangibraltar on Dec 2, 2013 10:06:46 GMT -5
Well, it took a few weeks of fighting with the wood merchant and in the end I decided to buy my own bench saw (especially if I am going to go through the rails like some of the other builders!). I spent most of the weekend cutting and ripping my own deck and bottom planks on my own using 2 jigs (my old loungers) either side to put in and receive the cut wood, man that was hard to rip 3 planks from a 1" plank without snapping it. This is with plain Pine timber, not sure which type but have been informed it is good quality! Also having a quick look at the laid out planking before gluing etc. Only problem now is that the edges are not 100% straight (should have trimmed the planks before cutting and ripping!!) so either I can "squeeze" them together which works but may put pressure on the seams or I might try to cut straight edges on them using the bench saw - this would clearly be a better finish but worried I am going to waste too much material.... Attachments:
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Post by juliangibraltar on Dec 2, 2013 10:07:50 GMT -5
forgot the pic!
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Post by juliangibraltar on Dec 2, 2013 10:08:24 GMT -5
damn...forgot again! Attachments:
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Post by 1974 on Dec 2, 2013 15:19:08 GMT -5
Looking good!! My boards were warped also and did not butt up to each other. I left them like that and they clamped and glued pretty well until i soaked the board and warped it to fit the TOP. The 2 that were warped didn't stay glued. I believe mine were off by at least 3 inches at their worst. I think yours may be better than that, based on the picture. If you are using them for the bottom then I think they will work fine. If you run into the same thing for the top I would fix it. My goal today was to fix the approximately 8 cracks on the top from this issue. Good luck!! By the way are you located?
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Post by 1974 on Dec 2, 2013 15:26:38 GMT -5
Just saw your question on my thread. I think if you were to glue them separately you would have better luck with them holding.
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Post by juliangibraltar on Dec 4, 2013 8:38:51 GMT -5
Thanks for advice.....knowing me I may well end up doing something in between,. glueing the bottom up 2 or 3 at a time just to be sure. YOu cant see it on the photo but there is still a lot of sanding I need to do on the slats before gluing them...ripping them where you only cut half the height and then turn the beam over tends to leave a ledge in the middle of the slat! Fortunately I find sanding therapeutic!
1974, I'm from a little rock called Gibraltar (The US insurance Co Prudential uses our rock in its logo), a little piece of England in the southern most tip of Spain, good weather and long summers. A couple of miles away from Tarifa in Spain which is famous for its windsurfing and kitesurfing...not too much surfing but it is growing! If you or anyone are ever in this neck of the woods let me know and I'll show you around!
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Post by 1974 on Dec 6, 2013 16:40:06 GMT -5
Sounds like a totally awesome place to live. Sounds like a great place for a SUP. One day I plan to make it across the pond. Around here I will be flat water SUPing I'm also ready to try wake SUPing behind a boat.
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Post by 1974 on Dec 12, 2013 18:45:18 GMT -5
I totally forgot to add if you happen to ever make it around these parts I can show you around here. I live in Wichita Kansas the self proclaimed Air Capitol of the world. Home of Learjet (where I work) Cessna and Beechcraft. There's not much else but farmland. It's kinda of boring here that's why we like to travel so much. Any how, how's the board coming?
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Post by juliangibraltar on Dec 19, 2013 11:37:38 GMT -5
Well 1974, on this side of the pond, apart from the aircraft industry you have Glen Campbell's song to thank for spreading the Wichita word! (which shows my age!).
My board.....very excited as I started to glue together the strips for the bottom, I actually found some Gorilla glue here which is great but only sold in tiny bottles and I ran out after only 4 strips glued! I have more now and I will be doing some more work over the Christmas holidays.
One big question, some of my strips are not butted up precisely and there are a few small gaps (I need to prepare the edges better next time) - I plan to treat them as if they were cracks and fill in with glue and sawdust - my question is, for this type of fill do you still use sawdust and Gorilla glue or should I use a glue that doesn't expand so much??
Once I get some more done I'll post some more pictures.
Many thanks.
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Post by 1974 on Dec 27, 2013 12:57:45 GMT -5
As far as fixing cracks I came up with something a bit different. I used super glue (from a hobby shop) other wise known as CA (cyanoacrylate) in the model airplane business. I used this in conjunction with sawdust. There is also an accelerator available to really kick off the super glue. If you use the super thin it wicks deep into the wood. This isn't as structural as gorilla glue but then again if the gorilla glue gets foamy it isn't structural at all. Then there is the option of making long shavings in a wedge shape and gluing this in the cracks. Check out my build and I posted how I fixed cracks with super glue. Good luck!!
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Post by juliangibraltar on Mar 2, 2014 13:18:40 GMT -5
Hi guys, last post didnt seem to work...? Finally got the bottom glued to the spine and ribs but some of the ribs got twisted with too much clamping...hope this isnt a problem with the strength of the rigidity, perhaps I'll fill with foam like 1974 did. Also nose and tail didnt quite meet but enough to get going on with...I imagine it should be ok when I cut and place the solid nose and tail. Anyone had these issues and can confirm they should be ok so I dont have to start from scratch!
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Post by juliangibraltar on Mar 2, 2014 13:20:24 GMT -5
The nose- Had a real problem with the glue going off (two minutes) before I could clamp effectively. Does anyone warm their glue so its runs quicker??
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Post by juliangibraltar on Mar 2, 2014 13:21:09 GMT -5
The tail...
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