I am now having trouble finding cedar I was able to find "scraps" from a millwork place to use for ribs But now can't get good cedar. I see online that Home Depot carries clear cedar. But that worries me that it will show up with knots. Anybody have suggestions? Besides moving out of the corn fields into someplace that carries better lumber?
Post by vilanobeachsurf on Jun 26, 2013 13:49:37 GMT -5
Welcome to my life of chasing wood! However I have come up with a couple of ideas of using other wood...
...and haven't had much luck finding them either, allthough I really haven't looked for the bald cypress much.
Best luck I've had is to find an old lumber yard that caters to contractors but sells to all and go look through what they have and ask what they can get!! Be sure to restack any piles that you go through before you leave though! (judging from your screen name you probably already know that though).
I picked up some nice cedar fence pickets from Home Depot. They seem pretty light weight and are already pretty thin (about 1/2" or less x 4"). Once they have been through a planer, they should look good. has anyone tried this? The price was right and there were quite a few with nice straight grain and no knots.
Post by vilanobeachsurf on Jul 11, 2013 7:01:25 GMT -5
Sounds good, but how long are they and how long of a board are you building? If the board is longer than the planks I guess that you could use a scarf joint at a rib location and everything would probably work fine!
Knots will be more of a problem, is the wood fairly clear?
Post by buckradius on Jul 11, 2013 15:51:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I will have to make some joints to get the desired length. I'm making the 11' SUP from Chad's template. I really don't mind the look of glued up boards (this is my first time building) and cost and easy availability are my main concern at this point. If this one turns out well I'll feel more confident about branching out and finding some better wood and full length boards.
As far as the lighter toned wood, I have a friend who works at an airplane wing factory, and he said he could get me lots of decent length scrap Douglas fir. I've not seen anybody really talking about using this wood for boards. The stuff they use to make wings is A+++ quality with perfectly straight grain. If I ask real nice they might even be willing to order what I want in the lengths I'll need, otherwise, it's still got to be glued up. I've been told that Doug fir is the best compromise of strength vs. weight (at least for airplane wings), and if you look at the build process, it looks pretty similar
I'm still putting the frame together, so I haven't been focusing too much on the decks yet.
If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears
I'll upload the frame pics as soon as it is ready for glue
Post by vilanobeachsurf on Jul 12, 2013 12:47:32 GMT -5
Well Doug Fir isn't as light as cedar (33 lb/cf vs 23 lb/cf), but it is much stronger. But wood boats use DF as a primary framing material so I would think that the extra weight might not be such a big issue.
Perhaps you could even get the deck down to 3/16" or 1/4" thickness due to the extra strength??? Someone else may need to touch on this possibility...
But the best thing would be to get a wood that has straight grain!!!! Especially for the rails!!!! I don't know how many rail strips that I broke because of a knothole.
When you mentioned that your friend worked at an aircraft wing factory I thought you were going to say that he had some straight grained spruce available in long scraps!!!! That would get me to his front door with dinner and cold ones in a hurry to get hold of some of that!!! But good old DF will do the job, especially in the rails!
So I spoke to my friend again today and he's going to grab me a load of the DF scraps. By scraps he means A+++ 4"x4"s in the 4 to 5 foot length. He said the guy who owns the company usually just has a couple big bonfires each year and gets rid of the extra that way (gasp!!!). He thinks there is also some 1"x 2" stuff that is in 12 to 14 foot lengths. Perfect for stringers and rails (I think anyway).
I'm headed to Pacific City, Oregon (I live 4 hours from the coast) this week for some family time and surfing so I'll have lots of time to think about deck layout and designs...and how I'll build my rocker table. I saw some really interesting examples on this forum. I really like the idea of the adjustable tables with the treaded supports.
Anyway, I spent the day patching up my foam boards, and I am reminded how much I hate messing with resin and fiberglass.